Wednesday, February 3, 2010

NYC 2010 Marathon - Course Strategy

Great (but long) piece by Bob Glover on the NYC Marathon course, its a tough cooky! Bridge/hill training will be a must before taking it on.

There are many challenges to running the ING New York City Marathon, from the logistics of the massive start out of Staten Island, to climbing the five bridges, to the huge cheering crowds, to "the Wall" at 20 miles, to the last 3 miles in hilly Central Park and the final sprint (or at least wobble) to the finish line at Tavern on the Green.

One Tough Course
No marathon is easy, but the ING New York City Marathon can be even tougher than most because of the course. It's not fast—don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You need to be realistic with your time goals or you will be setting yourself up for disappointment. To predict your marathon time, you would generally take your half-marathon time, multiply by two, and add 10 minutes—assuming comparable courses, weather, and training. For the ING New York City Marathon, add another five to 10 minutes to your range. For example, if you ran Grete's Great Gallop Half-Marathon in 1:30, your range for the ING New York City Marathon would be 3:10 to 3:20.

Here is what makes the course so tough:

The hills. The five bridges along the course offer uphill climbs ranging from a quarter mile to a mile followed by a downhill of roughly equal length and grade. The problem is, you lose more time on the ups than you gain on the downs. In addition, from 8 miles on there are several moderate inclines of a quarter mile to a half mile (in addition to the bridges), which tamper with your quest to stay on pace.

The toughest hills aren't even the toughest. At the end of the marathon even the slightest inclines take a toll. And there are several ascents in the last 3 miles that make the going plenty tough at a time when the distance to go is enough of an obstacle. You start a moderate incline just past 110th Street on Fifth Avenue, which gradually increases until you turn into Central Park at 90th Street. The climb is relentless, and lasts almost a full mile. And there are still more hills to abuse your tiring legs in the final mile. The two long blocks up Central Park South don't look so bad to the spectators screaming at you to pick up the pace. But after more than 25 miles that moderate incline is a challenge for sure. And wouldn't you know it—the last quarter mile is up a more-than-moderate uphill. Whose idea was that?

The weather. Be prepared to adjust your clothing, pacing, and fluid intake for the weather.

One thing is for sure: New York is always windy on marathon day! It is just a matter of how windy and in which direction the breezes blow. And they usually blow in gusts that swirl around the big buildings so that at times you swear you're being blown in opposite directions. If the weather forecasters claim the wind is from the north, then expect especially tough going from 2 to 15 miles and 16 to 20 miles—that is, most of the way—with a tailwind from 21 to 25 miles. And if the wind is from the south, you'll fly from 2 to 15 miles and from 16 to 20, but that headwind will be tough from 21 to 25. Most likely the wind will hit you at various angles as you wind your way through the course. That is, you can't trust it at all.

The crowds. You have two types of crowds to deal with: the millions of spectators along the course and the 38,000 athletes navigating it. Both can help and hinder your efforts. Spectators may crowd the course as they press forward to cheer on runners, they also make the course a bit longer because you can't cut perfect tangents along the way. But for the most part the throngs of screaming marathon fans will help keep you going. This makes for a faster race than if you were out in the country with just the cows looking at you.

Along the course you may have to weave around runners who started too fast. And you'll have to slow at aid stations to get a clear shot at the fluids. But overall, having thousands of runners to pass—and to pull and push you—will help keep you going.

The turns. A course is measured as if you ran the shortest possible distance. That means cutting perfect tangents on each and every turn. Even if no spectators or other runners were in your way, it would be impossible to run exactly the way the precision-obsessed course certifiers go. As a result, you will—sorry—run longer than 26.2 miles. This is why some miles are longer than others. A mile—about 20 city blocks—on a straight line up First Avenue is measured almost exactly the way you run it. But a mile in Central Park is longer than a mile, because you can't exactly follow the way it is measured. The more turns in a course, the slower the course, not only because you end up running a bit longer, but also because you have to slow to make turns while you run.

The logistics. In a small race, you can show up an hour or so before the start, pick up your number, loosen up calmly, jog a little, and walk to the start line a few minutes before the start. But because of the huge numbers of participants and the complexity of the city itself, the logistics for the ING New York City Marathon are complex, and can tax your physical and emotional energy. You have to get to the expo to get your number—and if you're not careful you may spend too much time on your feet wandering around catching the excitment. This may drain you. You should therefore visit the expo early. At the start, you have to make your way to the baggage area and then to your start corral. Then you proceed to the start area and stand for about half an hour. This sure isn't an ideal warm-up, but how else can the race officials line up thousands runners from all over the world in time for a reasonably orderly start? Try to be patient.

Through all the course's challenges, hang in there! Don't let the fact that New York is not a world-record course scare you away from having a great race. Enjoy the excitement and energy that make the ING New York City Marathon unique. You run New York not to run a personal record, but because it is New York—where the world comes to run! I've run the race 12 times and coached thousands of finishers of all abilities. Believe me, knowing the ING New York City Marathon course can help you plan your strategy on race day. The following description can be a big help.

Mile-By-Mile Course Tour
(Note: Kilometer markers are also posted every 5K.)
Segmenting the course in your mind is a great way to break it down into more manageable pieces. After all, 26.2 miles not only sounds like a long way to run—it is! So take it one borough at a time, enjoying all that New York City has to offer along the way.

The Start/Staten Island
At the boom of the cannon, you are off and running—uphill. The first mile is up the incline of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. It actually doesn't seem that steep, as you have to start slowly due to the crowd. You are full of adrenaline, and you can't see the slope ahead of you, just a mass of runners. Think of this as a safeguard—if you had a perfect start, you would most likely sprint up the hill and waste a lot of energy that you would love to have late in the race.

The second mile is all downhill. Be careful not to pick the pace up too much here or you will not only waste energy, but you could also overstride and cause an injury as you are not fully warmed up. It is best to disregard your time splits for the first 2 miles, as they are not accurate readings of your pace. Average your time for the first 2 miles for a more accurate reading.

Brooklyn
From 2 to 8 miles the course is fairly flat and can be fast, depending on which way the wind is blowing. There are some slight ups and downs, but not too bad. And it is almost a perfect straight line. The Green and Blue starts merge on Fourth Avenue just before 4 miles. Until mile 8 they are to the right of the median, and the Orange start is to the left. Crossing the median is prohibited. Green and Blue start runners shouldn't attempt to pace themselves with Orange start runners—at least not until after the 8-mile mark, where all three starts merge.

Use the huge Williamsburg Bank clock tower to guide you to the 8-mile mark near the Brooklyn Academy of Music. A bit past that point, you encounter a few uphills that aren't too nasty, but after running along the relatively flat sections for 6 miles they can upset your ryhthm. Then, from 8.5 to about 10 miles you get some nice downhills, followed by some moderate ascents over the next mile. From 11 miles to the 20K mark it is mostly down or flat. Look forward to a nice downhill at 20K as you turn right. Then you go left, toward the Pulaski Bridge, and climb more than a quarter-mile, passing the 13-mile mark and the half-marathon mark on the way to the bridge's crest.

Queens
You then zoom down the other side of the bridge into Queens. The next mile or so is mostly flat, but brace yourself for what lies ahead. You start a gradual climb at about 14.5 miles, then turn left and start the steep half-mile climb up the Queensboro Bridge. You pass the 15-mile mark soon after you start the climb. The half-mile down the other side of the bridge is tough on the legs, as it is steep and you wind sharply to the left at the steepest section at the bottom, where you cross the 16-mile mark.

Manhattan
Now begins the charge through the largest and loudest crowd on the course. First Avenue is straight, but it is not flat by any means. Rather it is a series of moderate ups and downs ranging from two blocks to over a mile. Know when the downs are coming, and use them for relief and to push a bit more to make up some time.

From 60th Street to 70th Street is up, then down from 70th to 74th, followed by up from 74th to 86th, down from 87th to 90th, then a flat stretch to 96th. From there begins a difficult stretch. It is uphill almost all the way to 125th Street, and then you climb almost half a mile to the top of the Willis Avenue Bridge. In addition to the uphills, the thinning crowd makes this section tough as you get farther away from the rowdy East Side bars.

Bronx
Near the end of the bridge, you at last get a downhill, which takes you past the 20-mile mark. This part of any marathon can be tough. Continue down and around to the right where you have a one-block flat segment, followed by a left turn and an uphill on 138th Street. This year the course turns right onto Third Avenue/Morris Avenue, left onto 140th Street, left again onto Rider Avenue, and then right onto 138th Street and over the Madison Avenue Bridge, where you cross the 21-mile mark. Finally, you dip down, then turn left onto Fifth Avenue.

Manhattan, Again
You are now—at last—headed south for Central Park! The crowds in Harlem are very loud and supportive, especially the gospel singers at the churches. The half-mile after 21 miles is flat, then slightly uphill. Don't get fooled when you see trees ahead. It's not Central Park yet, but rather Marcus Garvey Park. You go right, left, left, right around it (and the turns are not easy on the legs at this stage!), and at 22 miles return to Fifth Avenue, where you enjoy a flat-to-slightly-downhill half mile to the edge of Central Park at 110th Street. But don't get too used to it. After you cross 110th Street the route gradually ascends. The 23-mile mark is at 103rd Street, and if you're struggling, you can tell yourself that from here it is just over 5K to the finish!

However, from here almost all the way to 90th Street is—sorry—uphill. Use 90th and Fifth as a mental uplift. Many local runners gather here before and after training runs, and NYRR's headquarters is nearby at 9 East 89th Street. Think of it as very friendly running territory. You cross the 24-mile mark at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, a location with a large crowd, then roll down a half-mile hill to Loeb Boat House. This is followed by a short but significant incline-nothing uphill is insignificant at this point—that carries you past the 72nd Street transverse. It's flat and slightly downhill as you approach the 25-mile mark, where you veer left to exit the park via a half-mile downhill stretch—hooray!

You turn right onto Central Park South by the Plaza Hotel and go a quarter-mile slightly uphill, flanked by huge crowds. At Seventh Avenue, you get a long block downhill as you collect your energy for the final assault. At Columbus Circle, you zoom down a 100-yard stretch to the park's West Drive, then start a gradual ascent that becomes a serious climb at the 26-mile mark.

But so what! You can't even see the grade. All you can see are marathoners—your fellow heroes and heroines—bordered by the massive cheering crowd. And soon all you see is that wonderful, long-awaited sight: the finish line clock. You may have felt and looked awful a few yards back, but now is the time to look great for all your fans, and for the finish-line photo that will stir memories for many years. Painful memories, for sure, but proud ones. Because conquering a marathon is a serious accomplishment. Beating the ING New York City Marathon is even more special.

Copyright 2009 Robert H. Glover and Associates, Inc.

Weer or no weer, run thou shalt!

Miserable day yesterday with rain and sleet coming down hard. But with 5 weeks out to the competition and a canceled 45 minute run yesterday there simply is no excuse for not going out (injury and illness permitting of course). The holy schedule said "thou shalt run an interval run 6 x 5 minutes with 3 minutes rest in between". And if the holy schedule dictates, I shall follow. Did 10 KM in total with the warming up (and with the 1.5 KM that the GPS did not track at the beginning of the run??).

Warmed up for 15 minutes and then started with the speedwork, which still is not my favorite day of the week I must admit. But I'm enjoying it more now that I understand it a bit better. Having read more on training effectively (also from the piece of my last post "Hardlopen en herstellen") I began to realize that during the intervals I've probably pushed too hard too soon. The optimal results (=  to be able to run longer at a faster speed) for distance runners are obtained if you run close to, but just below the anaerobic limit. For me that limit is around 164 BPM. By going over that limit the training becomes heavier but without being more effective. Another fact for a more optimal interval is that in the rest part of the interval, one should dribble and not walk (which I did because I started too quick, ran over my anaerobic limit and thus was so exhausted). Reason being that the lactic acids that are built up in the tempo part of the interval are better used and discarded in an "active rest" at around 120 BPM than at a lower heart rate. With walking your heartbeat will fall below that, meaning you also need more energy to get the heart rate up again to run the speed section.

Anyway, a bit of a technical explanation but interesting to understand more of the reasoning behind the interval training. Two 70 minute runs left on the holy schedule for this week. Doegie!

Monday, February 1, 2010

Runners reading - some good tips and advice

Some good advice and tips on running (warming up, effective training, nutrition, etc):

Running tips & advice (Dutch website)

Sunday, January 31, 2010

Just run it off!

Completed my last scheduled run of the week (and month of January for that matter). It has been snowing again this weekend and the park was the worst its been so far for running. It felt like running through a minefield, carefully having to contemplate where to put your feet, cause one wrong step could result in disaster. The slush, snow and ice don't make it much fun to run: wet feet, slippery, people everywhere, and having to concentrate more on where you run, rather than the running itself. It also feels wayyy more heavy like running through a sandpit with loose sand. I'm not a fan of these days. But the pain in my calves has gone away, as has my cold! :)

On the flip side, the park was packed with people today. And during the 3 laps I spontaneously bumped into friends and family, meaning I stopped to walk and talk on two occasions. The first time was nicely timed because I got the mother of all cramps in my side, just below my right lung. Excruciating. But walking it off doesn't seem to work, you simply need to run it off ( oh yeah and a tip that works for me is to blow on the back of your hand, looks funny I know, but works). I've noticed that on a few occasions. Keep running and eventually (5-10 minutes later) the knife is slowly pulled from the ribcage...

I've run 10 KM today, 29 KM this week and a bit more than 100 KM in January (in 11 hours, running 9.3 KM/H with 152 BPM on average). A good month and excited to see what Feb will bring, hopefully more progress.

Next week, 6 weeks out to the competition, its gonna be busy as I have a 45 minute run (CANCELED), heavy duty speedwork, and 2 x 70 minute runs in the holy schedule. Hope the park is accessible!

It's very hard in the beginning to understand that the whole idea is not to beat the other runners. Eventually you learn that the competition is against the little voice inside you that wants you to quit.
- George Sheehan

Friday, January 29, 2010

Trouble?

Did my scheduled 50 minute run yesterday, in which I did 8.3 KM. Overall the run went well, tried to run a bit quicker but in the process I think I might have slightly pulled my calf muscles... oh dear. Both are pretty sore ever since I finished my run, and even today they feel rather sore. Tomorrow I'm down for a 65 minute run but I'm hoping that will go OK. With the timepressure of the competition looming above my head its no time for shananigans.....

On the good side, the park is ice-less again, meaning you can now concentrate on running rather than on not breaking any limbs. Temperatures are at about 4 degrees, so perfect running weather. The Garmin 405CX GPS lost reception in the first 5-10 minutes, which was new for me (it was rather overcast but that shouldn't matter??) But quickly it picked up the location and was reliable for the remainder of the run. And yes, I'm still running in my gay gear but it really works in keeping warm, thank you very much.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010

No news is good news!

Not much to report, good run last night, 65 minutes, 10.6 KM at roughly 150 BPM, at -6 degrees C in the Vondelpark. The good thing (I think) is that my heartbeat is staying lower than it has and remaining constant during the run. Next to that I'm quite able to complete the distance and time without needing to stop.

However, annoyingly enough, yep you guessed it, I have another cold...... Started in the weekend and continuing now. (that makes 4 in 5-6 weeks?) I will however keep running as long as it is a head flu, from the shoulders up, and no fever. Only 6 weeks to go until the competition. But if the holy schedule says I'm on track and will be ready for 22KM, then that's what I'll gladly believe.

Sunday, January 24, 2010

Two runs to complete a record week! :]

Hardcore week this week; in total 4 runs of which I completed the last (and also best!) run today. This afternoon I headed out to the Amsterdamse Bos (AB) to experience a change of scenery. Up to now all my runs have taken place in the Vondelpark. Its been snowing again last night so everything is white again, and the AB was packed with sledding kids (big hill right in the middle of the AB). The holy schedule said I needed to do a 70 minute run but ended up doing 85. Legs felt great for a change! Slower than I liked because the raods were slushy and icy. But a wonderful winter wonderland.

Oh yeah, and for this run I used the GPS course function on the Garmin 405CX, which in one word is awesome. I've never really been in the AB before so I looked up a course on www.runnermaps.nl and loaded it onto the Garmin. The watch showed me exactly where I needed to go, only getting confused two or three times. On top of that a crosscountry competition in the AB meant that I could not run the exact route, but the Garmin took me to the nearest point where it picked up the route again. So whenever I want to run somewhere I've not een before I can use the course function easily and reliably. Cool stuff!

Check out my 12 KM 95 minute run here

And yesterday I did a 45 minute run in the park. That one did not go too well, legs felt like pap.... Overall still  a nicely paced run however so I feel good about it.

So yet again, faster, longer and further running than any previous week, progress, yes love PROGRESS!!

Totals this week: 4 hrs running time, 37 KM. Not bad.

Friday, January 22, 2010

Tough as nails!

Did my weekly interval training last night, this time 8 x 4 minutes and man, its tough! :) Having to run at 90% of max heartrate makes 4 minutes seem incredibly loooooooong! :) Seriously panting, drewling, sweating and all that lovely stuff, and that 8 times in a row. You need to have slight masochistic tendencies to like this type of training but I keep telling myself that its for the greater good, that come March 14th it will pay off.

The reason for these interval training is for top cardiovascular training, meaning more stamina and improving overall speed. We'll see. I need to do a 45 minute run tonight and a 70 minute run on Sunday. For the latter I think I'll head to the Amsterdamse Bos.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Good start to week 3

Today started week 3 of my half marathon training with a good 60 minute run in which I almost completed 10K, or three laps. A little ticked off that I didn't actually manage the full three laps in 60 minutes (300 meters short, d' oh!), but still making progress. In total 9.7K totay and although it was slightly tough, still feels good to have completed 3 full vondelpark laps for the first time! Thursday speedwork and then more distance runs.

Weather is super nice to be running, 4-5 degrees, clean park, no wind, no rain, perfect. Can now feel the legs again, but a days rest before the 8x4 minutes interval speedwork. 291 days to go to the NYC Marathon! :)

Monday, January 18, 2010

Half Marathon training Week 3 has started

Another 60 minute run under the belt last week, did 9.3 KM so not too shabby! Am quite amazed that I'm able to keep this up, but on the flip side, its not even half of what I need to do in March, a little frightening! All the reading and research suggests however to have faith in the training schedule, stick to it and you'll be fine. So that's what I'll do!

This week a 60 minute run, even tougher speedwork than last week, a 45 minute run, and a 70 minute "long" run on the schedule (these "long" runs will get much longer!) so anxious to see how that will go. The weather is a little milder meaning a clean and non-slippery park and less chances to sprain ankles etc.

Will keep you posted!

Thursday, January 14, 2010

Speedwork done - tough as hell!

Right, just returned from the first interval training: 6 x 4 minutes at 90% of max HRM, with 2 minutes rest (slow dribbel) in between. After that I did 2 x 10 minutes with 1 minute dribbel in between. Very tough indeed but went well in the end.

Here you can see today's run! (If you click on the player and put the heart rate against speed you can see the intervals well reflected). So a tough training today, but cool to see it completed! Yup yup.

Wednesday, January 13, 2010

8km in 50 minutes, not bad!

Already in week 2 of the half marathon schedule (only did two out of the four runs last week due to flu/cold). Yesterday did a nice 50 minute run, almost 8 km in a snow covered park at -5 C, which was encouraging. Tempo is going up again, the legs and feet seem stronger and the heart rate remained nicely in the zone. All in all a good run. Today I can slightly feel the legs, but I'll go for a nice walk in the park later on and hopefully that will speed up the recovery.

Tommorow I'll be doing my first speedwork, 6x4 minutes interval with high heartrates, we'll see how that goes!

For now I'm a happy camper and getting faith back for the race! :]



Friday, January 8, 2010

Health

Can it be true, as I checked my temperature again to verify. Yes it is true, another blimmin' fever! The annoying cold turned into another flu, meaning snot productions are through the roof and the fever and headaches are back too. Really hate it. Also means I'm not running yet again.

Not sure what's going on but am really fed up with it now, even more so now that time is slipping through my fingers. Hard to stay positive in these times, as scrooge would say "bah hambug!"

Monday, January 4, 2010

Only 10 weeks before 22 KM!

So as of today there are only 10 weeks left before starting the half marathon in the Hague. YIKES! I have moved to the new 10 week schedule which is more aggressive (see Friday's post) which means I'm out running 4 days a week.

Regardless of my rather severe and snotty new cold I did go for a run yesterday in the Vondelpark, and in this wintertime it is so nice. Kids were iceskating on the ponds, a white snow/ice blanket covered the park, the sky was blue and the sun was setting, really nice scenery. Great to be out, and with 2 degrees freezing my only slightly gay gear is keeping me remarkably warm and comfortable.

Yesterday's run 


Friday, January 1, 2010

City Pier City Run 2010 - registered!

Finally, the registration is open for the Fortis CPC run on March 14th, and yes, it's official, I'm registered.

Together with my good pal Joop, we'll be running this one. Gonna be fun.

Fortis City Pier City Half Marathon 2010

New year, new schedule, new gear!

So check this out:

Jayroon's Garmin Connect Profile

First run using my brand spanking new Garmin Forerunner 405CX! Great HRM device with integrated GPS. It really tracks everything you can think off and does it really well. Above you can see the run I completed on the last day of 2009, 2 laps Vondelpark in 45 minutes. Thanks to the family for getting this for me for X-mas. I guess I can also see this as a down payment or big ass commitment for having to run New York in November..... :) So really no way back now.

Feeling better again, (although I just caught another cold, never been sick this often in my entire life!) and have note done too much running over the holiday period, however I did get started again on my new 12 week half marathon schedule. I won't be completely done with it when I have to run 22K on March 14th, but I'll be close (if nothing goes too horribly wrong over the next months) and it's better than not having a plan at all!

 So anyway, back on track, I need to run about 20 KM a week so that should be doable. You can see my half marathon schedule on www.runinfo.nl

Yet I am strongly considering changing over to the more agressive 10 week plan: here!

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Cold run, but nice to be out there again!

Went out yesterday for my first run since about a week. Yay for me! The temperature was sub-zero, but my new gay pants and gloves really kept me warm once I started running. All in all it was a difficult run, just barely completing two laps.

But hopefully I'll be out at least three times this week, picking up the schedule again!

Monday, December 14, 2009

Back to where you started

Running times are rough currently, I've missed 2-3 weeks due to recurring health issues and really feel like I'm back to square one. :[ I've decided to drop the first schedule (run for 1 hour) and will now move to the half marathon schedule to try and be ready in time for the March 14th deadline which is now approaching quickly (Fortis City Peer City run, half marathon). So I'm on a steeper learning curve that I'd like but hey, I've got to get moving again.

On the upside, I got some winter gear as temperatures are now around 0 C. I got on of those gay tights to run in, but they are warm and that's what counts. I also got some thin running gloves so I should be relatively cold-weather-proof.

Wish me luck for March 14th, I could use the motivation and support! :]

Monday, December 7, 2009

Colder and wetter!

Completed 2 runs last week instead of the scheduled 3 as, strangely as it may be, my health is still going up and down... :( (Fatigued, slightly fevered, coughing, headaches etc.) And that for someone who is rarely ill, ......touch wood! As difficult as it is to admit, I think the stressful times at work might be getting to me more than I'd like. Luckily, the pressure should be off after next week and I'm really looking forward to a nice extended holiday break.

More on the downside, I've not been able to complete and stick to the scheduled runs, meaning I'm behind. Physically, I'm now only able to run for 45 minutes, where I should be running 60. As a result, I've decided to go back in the schedule to the week that matches my current physical level, so I can start building again. And the reason that the pressure is on with regards to the scheduled runs is that I have a pretty hard deadline coming up, being the half marathon on the 14th March. And I should be starting that schedule next week!! YIKES! :)

I ran for the first time together with my buddy Joop. And although its more fun to run together, I've also noticed that it costs more energy to run and talk at the same time, which I guess means that fitness levels need to be improved. To be honest I prefer running by myself as you can more closely focus on the running, breathing, keeping the right pace, etc! Was a nice morning though this Sunday morning!

This week 3 runs scheduled, let's hope I get back into the discipline of running those! And lets hope the weather doesn't get too cold and wet!

Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Back on track!

Completed my Fartleg on Sunday (yes I know, I'm another run behind schedule which I hope to make up this week - in fact about to leave on my run tonight) but guess what, it went way better than the last couple times! Yeah baby YEAH! :) It was a short 40 minute fartleg, but I completed it without too many issues! In fact I did cheat a bit as it wasn't a true fartleg but more a 40 minute run at a faster pace than usual (155 BPM). But anyway, seemingly back on track, hopefully tonights run will go better.

The registration for the Fortis City-Peer-City run is still not open (the half-marathon on March 14th), really want to get registered for that to make sure we have the proverbial stick (more for Jopie than myself obviously!) :)

Ciao, will report after my run tonight.